Muted

Dont mean to be harsh at all, but you seem to have created many threads about you being an idiot, such as the sorry, this one and replying to others about yourself. You just seem to be trying to attention seek on the forums instead of doing what ppl recommend you should of done and should still do, shut up and keep ur head down. I even said to you, you should lay low, so you kind of did till now.

These threads might just put some new players/people off, with this one they might just think mods hate you, but if you did create to put players off thats pathetic (dont think ur that low to do that though).

You make trouble then cry you are victim.You give wrong answers to help channel.You make new players want to quit. You are bad person. A much "Thank You" whoever mute him. It has long time been coming. Now you can change to better and maybe like butterfly you flap new wings of help and not hurt to everyone you encounter, or you disappear now that you stage is gone.I know this feed you troll but I had to says this.

ppl have said and i see. no matter what i do say, no one will ever really listen. so since its that way, im not trying anymore.

Now that you've said that.. STOP TALKING

If everyone hates you, it's obviously not our fault. If it was everyone being stuck up you'd at least have one person on here that wasn't PO'd at you all the time, but there isn't.

Seriously, if you want to get your "dev skills" up download a goddamn compiler and use that. We don't need your sarcastic and self pitying responses in either chat or the forums.

You were muted for a reason, and while I don't know what it was, I can be it was you whining again.

there is some ppl that don't hate me. btw i mean coding skills as in web based, not program based. i got muted for a pretty stupid reason. read the forum toipc and you will see... I wont try to battle everyone b/c its just not worth the struggle. Ppl might hate me for my actions, just keep in mind that in hw time, thats a while ago.

there is some ppl that don't hate me.
Those people only tolerate you.

btw i mean coding skills as in web based, not program based
Get apache then goddammit.

i got muted for a pretty stupid reason.
Talking and being offensive? Just being plain annoying? Driving people away?

read the forum toipc and you will see...
The forum topic says muted. That means bugger all to me.

I wont try to battle everyone b/c its just not worth the struggle
You're doing it now..

Ppl might hate me for my actions, just keep in mind that in hw time, thats a while ago.
I don't think anyone put you in charge of telling us how long ago something was. A few weeks ago is a few weeks ago, I won't let you try and tell me that it doesn't matter. Human nature doesn't change, and neither do you it seems.

Your just admitting to it and then trying to justify it, i told you this on msn. Just admit it and just that, nothing else.

Hey, "No You!" is my line!!! THIEF!!!
^_^
<angryrant>
This entire issue annoys me. Why? My tolerance for stupidity is quite low.
Both sides are behaving poorly. PC on one side, and it looks like nearly everyone else on the other.

PC's Violations:
Unwilling to admit ineptitude
General poor treatment
Serving Dramabait

Everyone Else' Violations:
Eating Dramabait and asking for more
General poor treatment

I shall start with PC.
You've said you're sorry. But you (mostly) continue with the actions that required an apology. And even when you do follow through and amend your ways, it's generally after you've squandered other's forgiveness.
Dramabait. Theoretically, the easiest thing to cure, in practice, the most difficult. Letting things be, or admitting that you were wrong is an OK thing to do. You don't have to justify something, you can just say that you were wrong. Saying that "I was wrong, but so were you!" is a little bit childish. Admit your fault, and if they don't admit theirs, know that you took the high road. It will come around eventually.
Going with the above, DON'T BE AFRAID TO NOT KNOW! You don't need to be omniscient to be respected. In fact, that generally brings more fear than respect. They're hard to tell apart, but respect is much more resilient than fear.
I commend you for trying to admit some of your flaws, but learn to just admit your own, and not try to point the finger at someone else. You can't admit someone else' flaws for them. They must do it themselves.

Now on to everyone else.
How the mighty have fallen. In the beginning, I wasn't present. You very well could have (and probably were) in the right. But now...
Drama is something to be avoided, not welcomed warmly. It doesn't matter who starts it. What are we, a pack of teenage girls? If there's a problem, you point out exactly why they're wrong, not write rants about how they're wrong. It doesn't matter how many times they ignore the why, drama is born from hows, not whys.

Now for both sides.
Namecalling. If you have to resort to namecalling, no matter how stupid the person might actually be, you have lost. Pick apart their message all you want, but avoid touching the messenger. "But they called me a" blah blah blah. WHO CARES? I could call you a lying F***tarded B****. Why should it bother you what I think you are? Are you a lying F***tarded B****? Now, if you say yes... Your problem is that the truth hurts. If you say no... Then WHY do you CARE what ONE PERSON thinks you are? Oh, they have friends who will agree? Oh noes. A whole group thinks I'm a lying F***tarded B****! What ever shall I do?
How about you grow a pair and stop letting pointless little insults get to you. Either that, or GTFO of the internets.

On the subject of the Help channel... I haven't seen him answer
questions in there for a long while, but then again, I'm not in the game that often. In fact, I actually haven't seen him speak publicly unless by accident. Every now and then, I get a whisper asking for help, but that's it.
So, this is directed at everyone.
If you aren't 110% positive you are right, mention that you aren't sure. Or, even better, look it up! Test it if you have to! If you don't know, we won't hold it against you. We're all human (Except Mecha, he's a robot), but people will like you more if you aren't afraid to show it.

Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, needs to take the high road when it comes to these things. And then, realize that just because you've made it to the top of the mountain doesn't mean you can't fall back down it.
Do I sound PO'd? I should. Everyone needs to calm the @#$% down and move on with their lives. Dear GAWD! IT'S A GAME!
If I make any enemies or lose any friends here because of this, I'm glad. You wouldn't be the kind of friend I'd want to have anyways.

As a parting shot, PC, I'd like to say you did get better. Way better from when I almost got you to quit (I was gonna, too, but 16 saved ya ;D)
In fact, I would now feel guilty if I did get you to quit.
</angryrant>
Wow, I feel better... I need to go into angry rant mode more often...

Whenever I get into angry rant mode, my language becomes all flowery and I get ulcers (yes, it DOES hurt me more than it hurts you) :P

That being said, I compiled a small list of grievances and a paragraph of elaboration in case the reader misunderstood here.

Now keep in mind I was *extremely* annoyed, pissed off even when I wrote this, so there is colorful language all over this thing (you'll see why). That being said, I've since calmed down so like the mild mannered Clark Kent I shall go about my daily business (getting hw to work) and be civil to him again.

@abj, I'd consider fisking (definition here) to be as rude, perhaps even MORE rude than namecalling. When you take it apart like that you remove context for his arguments and can make him say any number of things depending on your interpretation. Sadly, his response asked for it because the whole thing was difficult to decipher without it.

Still mild mannered,
Kalibr

That's a fun word to say...
Fisking...
Fisking...

Anywho, I can't tell if you're saying what I did was rude or if fisking is just more rude.
So I'll address both ^_^
If you're saying what I did was rude:
I went with what the general flow of these posts said. I explained why such activities were bad and stupid, and vented much of my anger. I didn't pick apart anyone's arguments, didn't remove any context; I just went with the general feel of what everyone was doing. Sorry if I got it wrong, but that's how the wind seemed to be blowing.
If you're saying fiscking is more rude:
I have to agree. Removing the context of what was said is perhaps the rudest thing you can do. I once read "Sometimes to be foolish is the wisest choice." Without the context, you have no clue if they had reason for doing or saying something the way they did. I'm not suggesting you fisk them. In fact, that's also a pretty low thing to do. I'm saying you should show them why what they're doing is wrong.

Oh, and looking back, I guess you might be able to understand what I mean by "how they are wrong" if you reorder that "how wrong they are". Just a bit of a clarification if you're reading my rant for the first time, and scratching your head.

In case you couldn't tell... I'm quite cheery now.

*reads the "ignored" thread*
Ooo, and a coupla notes:
Array-like objects don't work the same for TI-BASIC, but then again, that's TI-BASIC. It's not really a language, now, is it? XD
As stated before, I have been absent for most of the conflicts, so my statements were made strictly from the most recent happenings to which I was witness, and a few tidbits from a longer while ago. Reading a few of those quoted chats removes my statement that PC has gotten better. He has only gotten better at behaving when I'm around.
Wait, does that mean I intimidate him?!?
*maniacal laughter*
That's just too funny. I mean, seriously. ME? You have got to be kidding.
PC? Are you really scared of me? I know my toothy grin looks kinda sharp, but fear? Wow. I guess I underestimate myself more than I should ^_^;;

Kalibr, not only did you let me rant angrily at you, but you even proved to me that someone is actually afraid of me. Thanks man, this day's now in the top 10. Number 1's the day I played at Carnegie Hall, 2's when I almost got arrested (ask me about that sometime, and I'll elaborate), 3's when I actually understood TI-BASIC, 4-7 are all Marching Band related, 8's from back when I was active on a RP chat, 9's today, and 10's a tie between when I saw someone try to imitate me in WiC (they failed horribly and showed me that I actually knew what I was doing), and the day I got good at riding a bike.

You weren't the topic of my reply.

I was merely replying to your statement that namecalling was quite rude, and I was admitting what I did was kind of rude. I didn't call you rude at all, that would be rude ;) (This is getting awfully recursive)

Array-like objects don't work the same for TI-BASIC, but then again, that's TI-BASIC. It's not really a language, now, is it? XD
I found it quite hilarious when silver replied with a technical post of how arrays work when everyone else (me included) were foaming at the mouth and getting all angry :)

Also, you were ranting at me?!?! ;) I didn't mind because you backed up your arguments. Laying down the why's as you said. That let me compare and contrast my why's and so civil conversation could take place.

*wink*
So, you're... Welcome?
And Recursion is FUN!
WINE = WINE Is Not an Emulator
etc.

Lol, when I was trying to log in to say this, I was trying my new password. This account uses my old one. Since the topic was "Muted", the failed login attempt was explained *under* the giant "Muted". I'm sure you can tell what I though XD.